24 thoughts on “Meetings and Minutes writing in Housing Societies: First General Meeting”

  1. I needs to clear two points 1) After AGM the Minutes of the Meeting preparation is the responsibility of OUT Going Committee OR IN Comening Committee. 2. At the time of AGM all members Chairman/Secretary/Treasurer & Internal Auditor were elected with other committee members but there was no Joint Secretary proposal during AGM. Is it possible that Committee can creat new position of Joint Secretary out of elected committee members only. 3.. Can a Managing Committee take decision and expend money for general party from society fund. Can an individual member object or go for a legal complain?? Kindly help and advise as per regulation.

  2. Your answers:
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    Either one of them can do it. It is the responsibility of the MC (incoming or outgoing) to prepare the minutes and circulate AGM minutes to all members. Members can place their objections to the minutes, in case of discrepancies, in writing, which need to be placed in front of General Body meeting, in next AGM. 2. Committee can create a new post for Joint Secretary, if it is not explicitly prohibited in the Bye Laws. 3. If the general party is arranged for the benefit of all members, the MC has the necessary powers to do so, unless otherwise explicitly restricted in the bye laws. It should be made clear that Society Fund should be used for society in general i.e. for all members. If this is not the case, then and individual has the right to file a legal complaint with the RCS, stating partiality and manipulative management practices in affairs of the society. Please garner at least 1/5 no. of votes of members to make your case stronger.

  3. Re: queries posted by Jainiwash Sharma on 10.09.09.

    1. For all practical purposes, the minutes of the AGM have to be prepared by the In-coming Managing Committee(MC) as the Secretary of this MC who will sign and table the Minutes at the next AGM. Needless to say, all assistance can be obtained from the outgoing MC in preparation of the Minutes.
    2.MC can create new positions on the MC only after amendment to Bye Laws to that effect is made after following the procedure and the amnedment is registered by the registering authority (i.e. Dy Registrar of Co-op Societies (D.R.)). It is doubtful if the D.R. will approve such amendment. 3.If funds(money) from designated Funds like Sinking Fund, Repairs and Maintenance Fund, and other Funds created for specific purposes, is used for a party -though for the benefit of all members, such an action by MC will not be right. I am not sure, generallhy speaking, if you need a group of members to make a complain to D.R. As an example, if out of total members, only one member has rent his flat out and the MC charges this member, a “no-occupation charge” (NOC) of say 50% of “Service Charages” which should not exceed 10% of “service charges’, excluding municipal taxes, it is this singly member who will complain.

  4. Re: query posted on 02.06.10 by Deepak Gade.
    No. one CHS member cannot call a AGM or SGM. To know more, please obtain a copy of approved Bye Laws from your Society or from Housing Federation in you area.

  5. New query: “Water Charges” . There is a discord between Model Bye law concerning water charges and charging of water by Thane Municipal Corporation (TMC). According to Bye Law 68(ii) water is apportioned ” on the basis of total number and size of inlets provided in each flat”; whereas TMC charges a combined monthly bill on CHS @ Rs.160/- per month per flat, irrespective of the different areas of different flats. Now, if the CHS apportions the TMC water bill based on Bye Law, a flat will larger area will be charged more than Rs.160. Will this not constitute profit making by the CHS on municipal water and illegal? I have shown our MC bills fron 2 other CHS who charges water @ Rs.160 per flats on different areas of flats. On the contrary, the MC wants to add the electricity cost for motors used to pump the water on the terrance tanks, thereby increasing the total ‘cost of water’- and then apportion the total water cost -just to widen the gap in water charges between 2 sizes of flats!! Informed members please comment.

  6. How are the following expenses to be shared among members of different built up areas of flats and under what headings? 1. Gym expenses 2.Diesel Generator expenses 3. Tank water expenses 4. bore well expenses 5.Waste disposal expenses (garbage from flats and sewage treatment expenses.6. Common area property tax.

  7. “Service Charges”, maintenance charges and division of expenses on members of a CHS. My understanding of by law nos. 67,68 and 69 is that all expenses incurred by a CHS to provide and maintain different type of services to the all members is as follows: 1. Expenses related to the value of flats (based on flat areas) are to be shared according to areas of flats. Instances are (i) insurance of building (ii) repairs and maintenance of building (through the Repairs and Maintenance Fund as per bye law 69(iii) Property tax of the building paid by the CHS (if not paid by individual members directly to the Municipal Corporation) and others based on the area of flats, if any. 2. All common expenses to provide and maintain common services to all members, are to be divided equally on all flats, irrespective of areas of flats. These expenses may be charged in the form of “Service Charges” (many CHS use the term “maintenance charges” ), “Lift expenses’ and “water charges”.3. Other expenses not common to all members, like Non-occupation expenses, parking chages, interest on delayed payments by members,etc.
    I would like to have members views on how they think the following type of expenses should be divided. (i) Gymnasium expenses (ii)bore well expenses,(iii) Diesel generator expenses (iv) sewage treatment expenses. Bye laws do not cover these type of expenses and MCs of different CHS may use different methods of apportioning/dividing such expenses.

  8. I m treasurer of my society. There was a urgent matter related to our society. Our Chairman had called MC meetting for discussing the same. But in that meeting our secretary was absent (not available). Out of 7 mmber of MC 4 were present. We have taken a decision to call a meeting of our society members to discuss the matter. Now I want to know that this meeting is legal or not (because our secretary was not available and not able to contact him, only informed the family members of the secretary if he comes then please inform him).

  9. A MC meeting require at least 3 days of Notice. However, the Chairman has powers to calls uch a meeting at a shorter Notice. The MC meeting you held had a quorum. Even if the Secretary was not present, the meeting was legal.
    The meeting of members you intend to call will a Special General Meeting with a specific Agenda. In such a meeting only that Agenda can be discussed, nothing else.

  10. My query. I purchased one parking slot from the builder and I paid thru cheque/cash to builder the value. Now I want to construct a roof over the purchased area to protect my vehicle from sunlight and rain. Whether I have to take permission from Muncipal authority /Society Managing Commitee. The Managing Committee is now asking for the parking charges (else Common place usage charges) from me eventhough I purchased the Parking place. pls advise.

  11. sir ,if members of the MC are issued with a notice from SUB REGISTRAR UNDER SECTION 78 (dismissing the MC FOR NOT SIGNING BOND M20 ),can the MC hire a advocate and fight the case against dismissal?

  12. IN THE AGM I WAS APPOINTED TREASURER OF THE SOCIETY  AFTER HOW MANY DAYS THE OUTGOING TREASURER HAS TO HAND OVER THE CHARGE TO ME AND WHETHER I HAVE FILL ANY FORM UNDER THE BYE LAWS . KINDLY LET ME KNOW THIS AND MORE ABOUT THE LIABILITIES OF THE TREASURER.

  13. I WAS APPOINTED TREASURER IN MY SOCIETY. I WANT TO KNOW AFTER HOW MANY DAYS I SHALL BE HANDED OVER THE CHARGE AND WHAT FORM IF ANY I HAVE TO FILL. ALSO LET ME KNOW MY LIABILITIES AS A TREASURER.

  14. Can the monthly outgoings in the society be increased in the AGM without specifically mentioning about the proposal in the Agenda.Is such a resolution valid? The agenda notice mentions in item 3 “to discuss & adopt proposals placed before the members by the management committee””There was no specific mention of increase of outgoings.Should not the members be given tlme to prepare & counter unreasonable increase as the MC members are giving all the outgoings to the builder without giving item wise expenditure in the Income & expenditure a/c..AGm is held lawlessly with gooda elements so many people do not raise their voices..it is passed in haste before giving opportuniyt for discussion.What is the remedy?Can such resolution be changed.Is such resolution legal?

  15. I want to know the following…

    Does the managing committee have the power to spend on repair works, without inviting competitive quotations from different vendor ?

    Can the MC start the repairing work ( involving major expenses) on their own, without discussing and call for general body meeting. ?

    What is the limit of amount MC can spend without General Body’s or MC consent & approval.?

    What is the limit of amount MC can spend without Inviting competitive tenders from different vendors ?
    In case any member has raised an objection for certain work carried out by the MC, without approval or discussions in general meeting., has the MC got the power to continue the work ?

    I have written an objection letter to our societies secretary as MC members on their own started beautification of the society including the pillars on the ground. But the work continued, and the secretary has replied me that the MC has the power to spend the money from 50,000/- to 1,00,000/- Is it justified ?

    I want to write to the Deputy Registrar’s office, but I dont have the address details and where it has to be submitted.? I am staying AIROLI-NAVI MUMBAI SECTOR-19.

    Kindly answer my queries urgently, as it is seriously urgent.

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  17. Who is authorized to approve and sign the amendment by laws ?
    Only the secretary & treasurer can sign it or even chairman can sign the amendment ?
    And whoever signs the amendment what authority do they get in the redevelopment of the society ?

    Please reply ASAP.

  18. How can society recover legal fees from its members, when it is incurring the legal expenses against 1 member of the society

  19. Can the managing committee appointed as joint secretary to another Committee memers only without general body meeting? if yes, what is the prosedure?

  20. Sir. Within how many days should minutes of meeting of a special general body meeting be circulated for a matter involving finances. That is payment of property dues of defaulters. Thanks.

  21. The president of the MC is not signing the transfer of membership approved by MC and not attending the MC meetings. The MC Meetings are presided over by one of the Executive Members as the Vice President has resigned. Whether the presiding President can sign the transfer of membership documents as he is also signing the other approved items of the agenda. Ours is a Cooperative Housing Society in New Delhi.

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